Thanks for posting this, beautiful graphics make it SO much clearer now! I got frustrated and entered the coords for Castaway Cay, just taking a wild stab in the dark, obviously wrong.
If you like the pirate life-- try geocaching (geocaching.com). It's great! It's kinda like searching for treasure all around you-- some with puzzles, some without, all fun. To learn more, try : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocaching.
I hope someone will address what Peakey said because I assumed this was not the way to solve, because it did not fill every space... peakey said... Has anyone figured out the significance of the missing triangle in the first column of the US site and forth in the uk site? I would love an answer to this...
peakey, was looking for something that had to do with the alphabet #'s that correllated with "serenity"... tried many diff angles... shoulda kept it simple... great game folks :)
There seems to be a bit of concern over a few things. There is the 1st column in the inside of the box with the missing triangle, and there is the unused clue SSSSSSST. I believe I know how they go together.
The clue that gave us the keyword SSSSSSST was:
"All eight but one will see the same For you to find that final name"
It seems clear to me that "final name" refers to the final 8 digit solution. Thus, the keyword SSSSSSST must somehow be used to find the solution. But how?
Consider the inside box of the US/UK puzzles. We have 7 columns that make perfect squares, and 1 unique column with one triangle missing.
Now consider the keyword. Seven like characters followed by 1 unique character.
Perhaps the keyword is a template.
Therefore instead of simply ordering the numbers on the lid according to 12345678 (come on, too simple!), we should make sure that the unique member of the sequence is at the end of the solution. The column with the missing triangle represented the 4th number in the sequence, so we should start with the 5th number of the sequence, and order the solution according to 56781234, so that the 4 is at the end. Thus I believe the US solution is 24764364.
It is also important to note that the same riddle and clue was used for each country, so I looked at the puzzles for the other countries to see if it still worked out. In order for my theory to be sound, there should be a unique characteristic to one of the sequence indicators found in the box for each country. And there is.
For the UK, it is the same as the US. They have the exact same columns just arranged in a different order. The unique column for the UK puzzle is the 4th column (same as the US 1st column). Therefore their sequence is the same as the US sequence, 56781234, which makes the UK solution 90363889.
For Japan, the unique character is fairly easy to see. It is the grouping of 3 dots, which is the only grouping that requires a diagonal connection to one of the dots. So the JP sequence is 45678123, making their solution 08829365.
For Spain/Austria, I believe the unique character is the grouping of lines shaped like a zero, as zero is the only non-positive number represented. However this is admittedly slightly troubling, as the zero already represented the 8th number in the sequence, so putting it last according to the template does not change the solution, as the sequence is still 12345678.
For the US/UK puzzles, I sincerely doubt that the missing triangle was either a mistake, unintentional or a red herring. I beleive it was put there intentionally and for a reason. Many people who have noticed the missing triangle have wondered why it was there, and I believe this method explains why quite nicely.
This method resolves the issue of the missing triangle, uses the as yet unused keyword SSSSSSST, and fits perfectly with the Port Royal riddle to boot. The riddle itself tells us that the keyword will be used to find the final name, which explains why it was not used on Port Royal itself. The riddle is outright telling us the keyword is to be used for the final solution.
To further strengthen my case, consider that Volvo intended us to start with the Port Royal riddle. After all, that was the first part of the final solution that we were given. It just seems that most people completely forgot about the riddle after they got to Somewhere.
After reading the Port Royal riddle, it should have been clear that the riddle is intended to help find the final solution. We should have filed that bit of information away in the back of our minds, and we should have been actively seeking ways to apply the riddle and keyword to the final puzzle. Therefore when we found the missing triangle, instead of causing us confusion and strife, it should have been our eureka moment, resolving the issue of how to use the keyword.
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So how do you know this answer is correct? Did you get a 'congratulations' message or email?
Oh, the thread is here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15847&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Dan
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Thanks for posting this, beautiful graphics make it SO much clearer now! I got frustrated and entered the coords for Castaway Cay, just taking a wild stab in the dark, obviously wrong.
Awesome blog, hope we get to do this again!!!!!
mamatoto,
If you like the pirate life-- try geocaching (geocaching.com). It's great! It's kinda like searching for treasure all around you-- some with puzzles, some without, all fun. To learn more, try : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocaching.
Dan
I hope someone will address what Peakey said because I assumed this was not the way to solve, because it did not fill every space...
peakey said...
Has anyone figured out the significance of the missing triangle in the first column of the US site and forth in the uk site?
I would love an answer to this...
peakey,
was looking for something that had to do with the alphabet #'s that
correllated with "serenity"...
tried many diff angles...
shoulda kept it simple...
great game folks :)
Hey guys, found this posted on the unfiction blog...seems to have a fair amount of common sense...
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There seems to be a bit of concern over a few things. There is the 1st column in the inside of the box with the missing triangle, and there is the unused clue SSSSSSST. I believe I know how they go together.
The clue that gave us the keyword SSSSSSST was:
"All eight but one will see the same
For you to find that final name"
It seems clear to me that "final name" refers to the final 8 digit solution. Thus, the keyword SSSSSSST must somehow be used to find the solution. But how?
Consider the inside box of the US/UK puzzles. We have 7 columns that make perfect squares, and 1 unique column with one triangle missing.
Now consider the keyword. Seven like characters followed by 1 unique character.
Perhaps the keyword is a template.
Therefore instead of simply ordering the numbers on the lid according to 12345678 (come on, too simple!), we should make sure that the unique member of the sequence is at the end of the solution. The column with the missing triangle represented the 4th number in the sequence, so we should start with the 5th number of the sequence, and order the solution according to 56781234, so that the 4 is at the end. Thus I believe the US solution is 24764364.
It is also important to note that the same riddle and clue was used for each country, so I looked at the puzzles for the other countries to see if it still worked out. In order for my theory to be sound, there should be a unique characteristic to one of the sequence indicators found in the box for each country. And there is.
For the UK, it is the same as the US. They have the exact same columns just arranged in a different order. The unique column for the UK puzzle is the 4th column (same as the US 1st column). Therefore their sequence is the same as the US sequence, 56781234, which makes the UK solution 90363889.
For Japan, the unique character is fairly easy to see. It is the grouping of 3 dots, which is the only grouping that requires a diagonal connection to one of the dots. So the JP sequence is 45678123, making their solution 08829365.
For Spain/Austria, I believe the unique character is the grouping of lines shaped like a zero, as zero is the only non-positive number represented. However this is admittedly slightly troubling, as the zero already represented the 8th number in the sequence, so putting it last according to the template does not change the solution, as the sequence is still 12345678.
For the US/UK puzzles, I sincerely doubt that the missing triangle was either a mistake, unintentional or a red herring. I beleive it was put there intentionally and for a reason. Many people who have noticed the missing triangle have wondered why it was there, and I believe this method explains why quite nicely.
This method resolves the issue of the missing triangle, uses the as yet unused keyword SSSSSSST, and fits perfectly with the Port Royal riddle to boot. The riddle itself tells us that the keyword will be used to find the final name, which explains why it was not used on Port Royal itself. The riddle is outright telling us the keyword is to be used for the final solution.
To further strengthen my case, consider that Volvo intended us to start with the Port Royal riddle. After all, that was the first part of the final solution that we were given. It just seems that most people completely forgot about the riddle after they got to Somewhere.
After reading the Port Royal riddle, it should have been clear that the riddle is intended to help find the final solution. We should have filed that bit of information away in the back of our minds, and we should have been actively seeking ways to apply the riddle and keyword to the final puzzle. Therefore when we found the missing triangle, instead of causing us confusion and strife, it should have been our eureka moment, resolving the issue of how to use the keyword.
My thought is ssssssst probably represents: everything is the same until the end.
As far as I remember, Bermuda didn't have the 2... and ...5 before Port Royal was open. Those two numbers appeared after Port Royal was open.
Also, there was no hint available for Somewhere like most other locations. So I would agree that ssssssst was for Port Royal only and not Somewhere.
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